Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Cogo vs Survey Points

There is a big difference in survey point behavior depending on how they were brought into Civil 3D. Here's a little chart I made. Enjoy!

Can they be…

Cogo Points

Civil 3D Survey Points

Edited in the panorama?

Yes

No

Called up in other drawings?

No (but you could export to txt file)

Yes

Added to a Point Group?

Yes

Yes

Adjusted for closure?

No

Yes – least squares

Created or edited in CAD?

Yes

No

Used to create linework/Figures?

No

Yes – provided you use the correct format in the field.

Used as a raw data record?

No

Yes

2 comments:

Unknown said...

In Civil 3D 2008, Survey Points can be unlocked in the drawing if it is necessary, but then they are nolonger survey points. A survey point may be dependent on many observations from the setup from which was was located from, and perhaps its setup is dependent many setups prior.

Survey Points are adjusted by not least squares, but my Traverse analysis: Compass Rule, Transit Rule, Crandall Rule, Least Squares.

If the survey network needs to be translated, a utility can be downloaded from the Civil 3D Community site to perform this operation.

Unknown said...

Creating Figures from Survey Points:

1. Insert the desiire Survey Points into the current drawing
2. Invoke the Pline command
3. Using OSNAP or Civil 3D Transparent commands, such as 'PN, 'PO, connect the dots
4. From the Survey Menu, select the Create Figure From Ojbect command.
5. Enter a figure name appropriate for the current Figure Prefix Database, and specify the option to associate to survey points.

This creates a survey figure in the survey database that is now associated to the survey points from the same database. In the future if the any of the survey points change, the figure vertices will also change due to the dependency.